Thank you for sharing your experience. Nettle, black sesame, he shou wu, are some great things to add strength! Hair. Start the process with your fingers and then introduce a hairbrush to aid you. it took me about 4 months! My blood test results were fine, and most ended up suggesting it could just be stress, or the change of moving to the Netherlands. If you’re just diffusing your hair you wouldn’t need to use a heat protectant (but you can if you want to.) So I’ve been using the WOW for about 4 days now. So whilst I can safely say I LOVE this no poo method, and certainly plan on continuing with it for now, this may not always be the case. I haven't used shampoo for over 3 years, but I haven't been able to go water only. Note: remember to also clean your brushes regularly, so you’re not spreading the gunk you get out back into your hair. I’m also considering taking it a step further and trying the sebum only method.. we’ll see. I am a Christian, and I was wondering about all of the processed foods, chemicals, etc. If using a shampoo bar (or other no-poo methods) gives you better results, do that instead. Hi Lb, glad you got curious enough to consider trying the method. This really helps to minimize hair breakage. Beauty. Also, having used chemicals on my hair, I felt like I had to detoxify my hair first before starting again. I only wash my hair once every 5-7 days. Now, this is not a negative for me, but it may be for you if you’re used to the smell of washing your hair with regular shampoo. I dealt with a little flakiness in the first few days, but I fixed that by scrubbing my scalp well while in the shower. Note 2: On my third month, I acquired a boar bristle brush second hand. I ended up washing it with hair soap on our last day there because it just didn’t feel like I could get rid off all the gunk with just water. Learn how your comment data is processed. If you feel your hair is dry as a dessert, then something needs to change. The transition period is different for everyone, and can range from a couple of weeks to multiple months. As for hard water, yes, it definitely makes water-only hair washing so much harder. But I didn’t get any clear answers. For teeth, (I do still use toothpaste and a toothbrush, as well as mouthwash at times—not excessively) I wondered about toothpaste and toothbrushes due to not having them until around 3,000-5,000BC with the Egyptians and finally a paste (what we now typically buy) in the 1850s and Colgate in 1873. With all of that said (thoroughly excessive intro), I am curious about men doing this. And the argan oil may be something I need to incorporate myself because I suspect I’m not too good at preening either . Think of Washing as Something You Do Only When You Need It, Not Because It's Time . I prefer 2nd (and 3rd and 4th) day hair; it's easier for me to manage. Hey I’m still mostly wow, tried egg wash good for removing grease but still feel I need to adapt in some way. just some clips and quotes.. "Overproduction of sebum on the scalp may result in undernourished roots. I don’t have frizz or fly-aways, either, and now I don’t care if it gets wet. I gave natural wavy hair which has become more curly. Oh, and the chemicals, of course. If you’re curious and want to discover if this method can work for you download the Free worksheets I put together for you. Water Wash – Hop into the shower and saturate your hair with water. Blessings!I. Google.. .. to try this method wch I always wanted to do.. but I was scared and not sure enough..if I can sustain… Cuz if in between I feel groz.. ((This is the reason I don’t regularly do exercise, have never had a skin care ritual, and am mostly unsuccessful at any prolonged medical care. Massaging, scritching and preening, need to become part of your routine. Remember that at the end of the day what is important is that you find something that works for you! I do think that when you switch to water only from having always used “normal” hair products, it may take longer for your hair to adapt. I’m doing the scalp massaging and brushing before washing, and finishing with a cold water rinse. Washing with water doesn’t contaminate the soils with chemicals, doesn’t produce waste and it’s basically free. Other no-poo methods, like using rye flour, may help you in the process. It is the washing of hair solely using water with the focus on distributing sebum from the scalp onto the strands. I must admit I quickly dismissed subscribing to this approach without looking into it, and it was only when Naptural85, a natural hair Guru on YouTube, talked about it with such enthusiasm that my curiosity was piqued. Used to use water only and occasional vinegar when I had soft water. It is really interesting that the work is on the front end of the shower now instead of the back. I have only been trying this method out for 4 months, and my technique is based off of a couple of other blogs I read beforehand. Nevertheless, as you can see Naptural85 made things work for her and so far she is very happy even though she’s new to the method. Do you use any product? Brush Detangling – Under running water detangle your hair with a brush, this will also help the sebum cover the hair length. Again, if you want to discover how you can do this for you download the free Worksheets for the WOW method and build your own modified version. It feels soft and clean. it’s a very tough transition for a lot of people at first (myself included) to get away from using anything but water to keep your hair clean. I’d love to know. Washing Hair With Water only – Hard Water method Some people living in hard water areas have attained a system of washing hair with water only by either boiling and letting cool some water or using filtered water. Again, like you, I wandered about the smell and bacteria. Boy, was I wrong… It’s been a few weeks no and, I have been pushing through it. I have been WOWing my naturally curly hair for about a week and a half now and I couldn’t be happier. As I had expected, traveling affected the process. As for my body - I rarely use body wash. I have done the no shampoo lifestyle since summer of 2016. Yeah, I know it sounds crazy. But in case you are looking to buy a new brush, perhaps this guide can help you. When we started traveling full time, I worried about where we would be getting our solid shampoo in the future; It is not a common product all over the world. Maybe you just need to distribute the sebum better, maybe it’s a question of doing it for a longer period of time, but hey congrats for the bravery (yeah, I do feel you need to be a little bit brave for the WOW). Wow, Patrina!! Therefore, let’s consider the basic steps if you want to start doing the WOW Method for natural hair. The best part of this routine, is that I have the most beachy beach wave curls ever. Here is her video for you to witness her benefits. Note: no-poo refers to washing your hair without shampoo. If … Hello Everyone! Using eggs, which if not well removed with a shampooed can rotten and create bacteria on your scalp/hair, using butters and store-bought products is not really a WOW hair routine. I’m no innovator. She will do this process every 3 to 4 days for two weeks, then she co-washes to stimulate sebum production since we don’t want to decrease it and then she repeats the process again. Crazy town. All content Copyright © Curly Hair Lounge 2017. You'll likely want a little extra volume by day three. I had been straightening my hair because I was tired of the curls but because the straightened hair looked really stiff at the beginning of this process I opted to rinse every day and let it dry naturally. But you’re winning me over more and more… Keep us posted on how it’s going up in a few weeks or so. How to Transition to No-Poo Without Looking Oily / How to Train your Scalp’s Overactive Oil Production [Initial Oily Transitional Phase FIXES] How to clean a Boar Bristle Brush – lik… Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We could travel wherever we want, and I didn’t have to worry about whether we had shampoo with us. Always massage the scalp prior to washing, it makes the process easier. Hey Lian! Not oily, waxy. My scalp is so much healthier now but I’m not sure it’s really working for me.. been about 3/4 months now. Until I thought to try this I was a bit discouraged but, like so many others, I am glad I have stuck with it. Monica, I really enjoyed this post. Or I may be less strict, and just use the shampoo bar in those places where the water leaves my hair feeling icky. What is key, is to ALWAYS massage, scritch and preen, before washing your hair with water. Really tempted to try this. I was alone, thank goodness, because the flakes of dandruff all over my lap, my coat, and truck, in general, were in the billions. I know I’ve skipped around a bit but I type the way I talk lol. It was a bit frustrating to not see clear linear progress. Still, followers seem to say “Fear not! I don’t use styles, gels or deep conditioners and my hair always feels balanced. Thank you for the recommendations! This freed up space in my toiletry bag, and in my head. I no longer use soap in the shower either. I had phases of swimming in salt water but nothing notable to act on the information. Got this site bookmarked so I can show it to my wife! If anything, we want to increase it so that it covers our hair. Well your assumption is correct in that you will need to wash those products out and you would need to start the process again. Not only was my hair now short, which apparently makes a difference in the adaptation period, but also, I had “cheated”. Hi! My transition to hair soap was pretty easy. This is my first vlog about my experience with the water washing only method of cleansing hair. Many people complain of sebum over production and difficulty disguising waxy and greasy look even after a few months. Otherwise I feel like it makes my clean hair greasy more easily. If your hair is long the wait will be long and agonising. I know this is part of the process, but touching my hair made me feel gross. Having used more natural shampoos and having curly hair before starting this journey I could always go about a week without washing my hair easily, so since I started WO I went two weeks at first, and then a month. 5 Homemade Natural Hair Recipes For Your Entire Washing Day, Achieve Faster Hair Growth With The Inversion Method, The Water Only Washing Method For Natural Hair. Then, as hot a water as possible, following a two day scritch, and scratch, and not much preening, I washed the sebum away, rinsing with diluted ACV, and finally, the freezing cold last rinse. I appreciate your article, and I would say, 10 points to Gryffindor! Hey! Anyway, where would you suggest I start? My hair has gone from never growing past my shoulders to being half way down my back and from dead straight to having a soft wave. To help protect strands, a pre-poo treatment is highly recommended before washing. Some of you have asked for it and it's finally here; My updated Wash n go/Curly Hair routine! Other than brushing the oils down the shaft and rinsing with warm water I am not doing anything to my hair, and I use no product at all. I’m intrigued if my hair will change – I’m hoping because I’ve gone through the angry hair phase when I changed to the soap method that it won’t deteriorate! I am just over a month in and having a particularly bad hair day, there is just a constant build up of oil. And whenever I was feeling a bit self-conscious, I would just wash it again with water, even if it meant washing my hair more times in a week than I would normally. Whoop whoop. What this trial has shown me, is that water-only hair washing would be IDEAL for me if we were living somewhere for longer; it WORKS and its perks are seriously amazing. Just passin on the info…should be free for all. Many suggest only trying this method if you have access to good quality water, the reasoning being that bad or hard water can actually leave your hair with more residue, or feeling dry. I am all about minimizing the use of hair tools and instead using my fingers to detangle and smooth my hair. Only after a week I could see my scalp less. Hope you’re doing ok with the Crown & Glory method. I use an old t-shirt to dry my hair although a microfiber towel works, too. In turn, the sebaceous glands produced more sebum to protect their stripped hair. The only way to figure this out is with trial an error I’m afraid.. I heard about this a while back. judy here. But whilst traveling through very hot and humid countries, with no styling products whatsoever, my hair had just transitioned into a non-defined frizz ball. Therefore, my hair is exposed to new water types constantly; a situation not many other bloggers seem to share. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts . … I have heard of the water only method, like you, I just couldn’t imagine it actually doing anything positive for my hair. I have NEVER used under arm deodorant or antiperspirant, since I was 15 when one gave me such a rash, I thought my arm pits would rot. Also, I’m lazy and I find the process a bit boring (whilst other talk about it like a glorious moment of self-care). r/NoPoo: "No Shampoo" - A place to discuss natural hair care and alternatives to shampoo. Their lives are stable (not traveling all over the world), with constant access to good quality water (many use special filters etc). I would advise to do it as part of your night routine, so your sebum can settle whilst you sleep, before going out in public. It was seriously instant! If you happen to know of anyone that already does this, please do send the info through. You can use them as regularly as you like and they will get your hair squeaky clean. I just stopped shaving a few months ago and I use natural deodorant but don’t actually wear it that often. Just do what works for you, and good luck! After washing your hair with water only, you will need to wash the oil off your fingers with soap, and off your comb or brush. 48. I may actually have to reconsider giving the WOW method a chance. I’m not using boar brush only combs now as worried it causes damage, comb my hair once out of the shower after a moisterizer.. plus I actually have wavy hair that’s not holding it’s shape at all. According to what I read so far about this method in hair forums, blogs and YouTube videos supporters use water to wash and maintain their hair. Proceed to style your hair. You may find that warmer water helps spread you sebum better. Crazy town. Some weeks I would wash my hair and it would feel pretty good for many days, and suddenly I would wash it again, and it would go back to gross immediately. The no poo method came about to help people reduce the number of chemicals they use on their bodies, in their homes, and to help restore damaged hair to its natural beauty. My hair immediately stopped falling as much! These pictures were all taken in the same lighting, room, and with the same camera as they were in the Ultimate Water-Only Hair Washing Routine post for a more accurate assessment of progress. Others, mainly those further along the adaptation process, only feel the need to do it a couple times a week. With the discontinued use of shampoos and cleansing agents, this method is supposed to decrease the sebum production that afflicts Caucasian hair. Like they do it in saloons! It was not soft and silky. Feb 2, 2015 - The Ultimate Water-Only Hair Washing Routine – [No Shampoo!] the ROM (rinse-only method) is only washing your hair with water, and using your natural scalp oils to “condition” your hair. Finally, I worried it wouldn’t work. Whilst other bloggers talk about it being a moment of self-care they enjoyed, I did not appreciate it. You can address the hair odour with hair rinses (essential oils) or the waxy hair look with oil rinse or warm water to emulsify sebum, but I think there is something important we’re forgetting here. I’ll try to do a even more detailed update at some point again . Going forward, I am going to continue water-only hair washing and hope that it continues to work as well as it is here in South Korea. It’s strange for me to consider trying with just water. I know this doesn’t sound credible but my mum and Warner also pointed this out. I therefore only use it before washing my hair, as opposed to everyday. I’ve not washed my hair with anything other than water for 2 years now and my husband has been doing the same for even longer. Explore. You should massage, scritch and preen for 5-10 minutes a day. At first, I put it down to my hair being supremely thick and the fact that I only washed my hair with water. Accept Read More. Nevertheless, if you want to follow the method you’d still need to do all the rest. Also, I don’t care if my hair is a bit greasy for a couple of days, as I’d rather prolong the time in between as much as possible (part of my training, not because I’m gross). Here is the basic gist of what is important: Key to this no poo method is the transition period. What I have never heard of is the breakage. If you can get over the stigma around not washing your hair, I can’t recommend this method enough. I too also have not the cleanest shower water or tap water either, the water that comes out of the shower and any faucet for that matter already has a lot of sodium in it as well. Allow the coconut oil to sit for 10 mins, then rinse like you normally would. But from what I gathered in my investigation people adapt this method to serve their hair needs. I tried to go water only, but it was like I was wearing a sebum helmet, and even 2-3 hours of brushing a … I jave been binging on a lot of mediia. Water Wash and Hair Massage – Wet hair in sections concentrating on massaging each one individually and finger detangle at the same time. I properly re-started water-only hair washing on the 1st of March of 2019. Sebum only involves using nothing at all! I still mostly only wash my hair with water, and I’m happy with the results. This is just to say, don’t let the exact recommended technique scare you off, or hold you back. Then focus on one section at a time soaking, massaging the scalp and stroking the hair in a downward motion to help spread the oils. I wash every day (at the sink if I'm not washing my hair) and honestly, I get told I smell *good*! My hair stylist, whom I now see every 6 months for a very minimal end trim, is absolutely amazed as he’s watched my hair go from almost a brush cut to way past my shoulders, and go from straight, to beautifully curly, and so very, very healthy. Once full sebum production is achieved I water rinse maybe once a week depending on how dirty the scalp is. What about odours, dirt? Knowing I don’t like wasting a lot of time on my “pampering” practices, I knew I needed something easy, readily accessible, and that wouldn’t require much of a change in my routine, if I was to be successful. Nevertheless, just as for decades we couldn’t conceive anything other than to “chemically straight our hair to look pretty”, maybe we’re also under the industry’s spell that we need shampoos/hair cleansers to clean our hair. Furthermore, it comes with multiple perks (like less hair fall) that make it totally worth it. Super informative. What is it? My cute short haircut, which has always resulted in my hair shaping nicely around my head, suddenly was not cute anymore. My hair is now below my bra strap in length – I trim a tiny bit every few months myself. I would totally understand that, on those days where your hair gets specially greasy and funky looking, it would make some too self-conscious to continue. It was more like straw. If you would have told me some years ago that I would be ditching shampoo altogether and end up washing my hair with water only, I would have probably laughed, and imagined myself desperately surviving in the middle of the jungle. But we were very busy with leaving Spain again and thinking about my hair was not a priority. As for the WOW method, I’m glad you’re enjoying it. May 23, 2020 - How to Transition to No-Poo Without Looking Oily / How to Train your Scalp’s Overactive Oil Production [Initial Oily Transitional Phase FIXES] « Just Primal Things . The reality is that I only have my own experience to account for and cannot therefore give you a solution. I use a weak baking soda wash with a citric acid rinse and it works well for me. seriously. Alternating diluted shampoo washes with water-only washes will make the transition period longer but less severe. Using a brush for this seems to invite trouble to walk in freely because even if it doesn’t “hurt” your hair when it’s already covered in sebum while you’re transitioning into this method, naturally dry and curly hair is stripped and can break very easily. the ROM (rinse-only method) is only washing your hair with water, and using your natural scalp oils to “condition” your hair. However, on those days you’re not washing your hair after scritching and preening, it makes your hair look worse. Sorry you’re having a bad experience and that I haven’t been of assistance earlier. I still have a few doubts and I’m sure I’m not the only one. This all just struck me in the shower the other day, and I decided to look into it. And the video was great too. Hey Melissa! I will gently finger comb my hair before combing. I found that if I kept the routine of brushing my hair at least once a day (brushing at that rate already feels like trying to dragging a big heavy object through drying cement, let alone after a few days of no brushing), as well as putting oil in my hair at least every other day, my hair seems to be manageable for day to day. I’m so curious?! May 9, 2013 June 5, 2013 by alexraye 56 Comments on update 1 for my transition to the “rinse only method ... what is water-only-washing/ the ROM?it's literally only washing your hair with water. Read others’ experiences for inspiration, and experiment until you develop a routine that suits you. I am mid week 7 and my hair is so waxy. I have read and agree to the privacy policy, @2019 Wale&Me. My hair is also about down to my waist when fulled brushed, otherwise the curls keep it at around mid abdomen. I of course had freaked out and gone to the doctors. Transition definitely is the worst part, but in my case at least it was SO worth it. Expecting the typical shampoo-like lather. However, I had no way of knowing how the water quality was in the places we were visiting, didn’t always have access to water filtering systems, and was not about to be using bottled water for my hair (obviously). Try this trick. I let it air dry, and in the morning I take it out. You can read more about them here, here, and here. It’d be nice to start some transition now because I’m on summer break from school and don’t have to look as nice, though, I don’t really care too much what others think. It felt like the morning after a night of partying in my early 20s, when I used too much styling product, and the gross residues of cigarette smoke (yes, back then that was the norm BARF) and sweat had stuck. [ check out UPDATE 1 (5/9/13), UPDATE 2 (5/24/13), UPDATE 3 (6/21/13), UPDATE 4 (8/15/13) ]oh, readers... dear readers... i will be embarking on the journey to only "washing" my hair by rinsing it with water! I don’t know what i’m doing wrong or what i should do anymore. For a year or two, I tried making my own shampoo, from various recipes found on blogs, and websites, finally settling on one that seemed perfect, but alas, nothing last forever. CHANGE is required. Thank you for contributing to the discussion of this topic, Patrina. Hello, Jhatiere! With being 4 days in it is worrying me about the waxy feel of my hair at the crown. I had long hair then and was used to washing my hair once a week. I don’t know if I can stay like this for another 2 months. Another reader says she puts a few drops of Argan oil on her ends. There’s also the economic impact of spending money excessively or needlessly. The method itself is not new and must be around for ages, probably ever since people started taking care of their personal hygiene. What about when we want to wear our hair straight and use a heat protector? Think of it like soaking a dirty pot. Thirdly, there seems to be too much hair manipulation with all the daily massage and hair wash, which as we know has “breakage” written all over it. u/tequilamockingbird13. The frizz was so much better! If you like this type of content, and want updates on water only hair washing, please let us know in the comments (your feedback is crucial for us to know what content we should create). I currently use shampoo and my first response is to just jump in and not even use any soap, but I’m guessing I should start with some soap bar or something. That is something else!!! These natural oils are the BEST conditioner for your hair. II have taken to pinning them with a bobbie pin, which looks kind of cute. Starting out so looking for advice. Hi Chris, I’m not an expert myself on this routine, but from what I researched you should scrub (massage) the scalp to release dead cells, dirt, stimulate sebum production and avoid clogging pores. The downside is that it takes longer to get the hair to quit dripping but I keep it on while I moisturize and then squeeze my hair to get the rest. Besides, I am tired of reading the front of a bottle that contains the WOW FACTORS of the product, then turning it around and require, a) magnifying glass, print is so small, list is SO LONG, and IF there is something healthy in the product, it’s 2nd from the last means it’s essentially not worth mentioning. Conditioner wasn’t even introduced until 1900 and shampoos in the late 1920s (1927). Massage the water into the thick mixture sitting in your hair. I started water-only washing about 1.5 years ago and it has literally changed my hair. Like they do it in saloons! Then use your fingers to move the oils down the shaft, and lastly finish up with a cool rinse to close the cuticles, which helps to eliminate fly-aways. I can moisten a little, put in a scrunchy ’til dry and get waves! Also, we don’t carry apple cider vinegar with us. What I pull out of my boars brush is white and thick and I swear I have lost an inch or more off the bottom of my hair. Endocrine disruptors, and why you should go plastic free. Hi Anil, once you start with water only hair wash will be hard and your hair will be more oily in the transition period. The water only washings method only uses water and maybe a few diluted essential oils to help with odour. I have been doing the WOW method for over two years and the results are truly amazing. A while it 's time that I only wash my hair before combing 2 times a year anything like you... 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