I’m lucky in that the olympic weightlifting gym where I am at are desperate for people to join as it’s a small college gym in the middle of nowhere with one olympic weightlifting coach who coaches for free. My second question is nutrition, what does my diet need to be like ? Glad this article came back to life. Rippetoe just makes stuff up. I do very much enjoy these full body workouts (squats, deadlift) as well as the bench (I do standing press as well, but those numbers are really low). It goes with the persona and his primary audience loves it. Besides, unlike squats and bench, i haven’t done deadlifts nearly enough in past, so now i have chance to practice them a lot. You also have to remember that 1) this is a business and puts food on the table for many people including Mark, and 2) Mark has invested most of his adult life to the SS program and he believes in it passionately. I’ve seen other people teach a jump-and-shrug technique, but I was able to recognize it, because they said I should jump and then shrug before I racked the bar. I actually came to that same conclusion myself earlier this week before you had replied. The clean pull, while similar looking, is a very different exercise than the conventional barbell/powerlifting deadlift. Certainly, there are many strength routines to choose from for beginners and, at this stage, you must have one sole goal in mind: to build a strong foundation. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. 95×5, 115×5, 135×5, 185×5 205×5). “Jump and shrug” is a faulty cue that is used to teach the power clean. Your position should probably be rephrased as follows: “I recommend that every YOUNG MAN with no significant preexisting conditions who is trying to maximize their potential strive for those numbers.” There are very few women who can hit those numbers even when healthy and there is no need for guys to do the same if peak performance is not the goal. ”, This is not correct. Either way that variation of the lift doesn’t belong in a book for beginners. I have trained with guys Olympic squatting 250kgs after cleaning 200kgs so, needless to say, the Olympic squat builds tons of strength and is not difficult to perform. 1) Practise, practise and practise some more. Unless the modifications were done by Mark Rippetoe himself, I don’t believe that such mods would still be “Starting Strength”. And you’re right in your criticism as jumping in cleans and snatches is not taught in Europe. When you’re doing this with 90-120kg forget it.. so I had already found the best Row that suited me which was the two handed bent over Dumbbell row.. it just hits the back perfectly.. so I thought ok let’s do the old time two handed repetition Dumbbell clean and press and for me it worked.. no more threatening shoulder damage and a total body power movement. Good advice though. The way he teaches the technique to the Power Clean is unlike that taught by actual Olympic Weightlifting coaches (and I have been under the wing of several international Olympic coaches) and he teaches a “jump and shrug” motion for the Power Clean which is just something he made up to make Starting Strength look like a novel and pioneering method. Thanks. It is perhaps relevant to note that it is not only Rippetoe who advocates jumping. I can tell you that because I have personally done some modelling (many years ago) and the 6ft guys weighting 150lbs are very common. So I guess he’s not completely evil if he sent me a free book, but the squat chapter did not adequately address my criticism. I get a feeling that Mark Rippetoe got Bill Starr’s The Strongest Shall Survive and literally thought… “hey how can I make this program less taxing on those looking for strength while making them think they’re doing any better in technical lifts like deadlifts and, heaven’s forbid, power cleans”. Thanks! I eat good most of the time and train hard. Agreeing with your points made though I train 50/50 bodybuilding/strength. My primary goal mass and bulk, however im planning to do strength routine for 3-6 months, because my lifts are quite weak for beginner. Shouldn’t week 3 or maybe week 4 be: 100×5, 120×5, 140×5, 190×5 210×5 As many others I find starting strength to be useful but I didn’t know this had grown to be a cult. The purpose of the power clean is not to build your back. I’ve become quite the student of technique and Rippetoe’s method is awful. 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